[wix-users] .Net Framework install not working

Phill Hogland phill.hogland at rimage.com
Tue Sep 22 12:36:54 PDT 2015 

>> If any superior Net framework is installed or installed by bundle itself, then it should go fine with that.
>>If any lower Net Framework is installed, it needs to be upgraded to 3.5 or higher...

Not in my experience.  .Net 3.51 is in the .Net 2.0 family, in contrast to the NetFx4.x family.  I have a third-party setup which does not run on systems which have .Net 4.x or later, when NetFx3 is not installed.  I have not been successful in getting the vendor to update yet the package, yet.  

http://www.davidmoore.info/blog/2010/12/17/running-net-2-runtime-applications-under-the-net-4-runtime/

In situations where I have to install this third-party InstallShield based setup (with a CA which "requires" .Net 3.51) I have to make sure that NetFx3 is "enabled" using DISM.exe (Windows 7 or later) or fondue.exe (Windows 8 or later).  It's a pain but possible to achieve.  For my mba and all other applications which my group manages, I make sure that managed apps target NetFx4 or later (and lately NetFx451 to take advantage to bug fixes and performance improvements).


-----Original Message-----
From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On Behalf Of Farrukh Waheed
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 1:47 PM
To: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>
Subject: Re: [wix-users] .Net Framework install not working

If any superior Net framework is installed or installed by bundle itself, then it should go fine with that.
If any lower Net Framework is installed, it needs to be upgraded to 3.5 or higher...

My managed bootstrapper needs FW 4, but when its basic screen installs 4.5.1, it went fine...

On 22 September 2015 at 22:26, Patterson, Brent <bcpatterson at xactware.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the explanations!  If a program requires .NET 3.5, at 
> least, and Windows 8 and later don't have .NET frameworks installed, 
> what is the outcome of launching such a program and having the .NET dialog pop up?
> Does it try and install lowest .NET version that it can (4.0?), or 
> does it simply fail?  By having 4.0 or higher installed, 3.5 .NET 
> programs should run fine, right?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On 
> Behalf Of Sean Hall
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:34 PM
> To: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] .Net Framework install not working
>
> We really need to the bundle log in %temp% to diagnose the issue, but 
> there are some issues with the BootstrapperCore.config.
>
> The host element is used to tell mbapreq which assembly contains your 
> BootstrapperApplication class, you should only specify one host element.
>
> The order of the supportedRuntime elements shouldn't cause your 
> problem, but be aware that by putting 4.0 first that you will be 
> running in the v4 CLR if it's installed.
>
> By leaving out supportedFramework elements, you're saying that the BA 
> can be loaded under the v2 CLR without the 3.5 upgrade.  Since you say 
> your BA requires .NET 3.5, you should add a supportedFramework for 3.5 
> under the host element.
>
> Finally, be aware that there is no redistributable to install .NET 3.5 
> on Windows 8/Server 2012 or later.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Phill Hogland 
> <phill.hogland at rimage.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe I should not try to comment on this, as others may understand 
> > the issue better than I.  It seems like your supportedRuntime is 
> > saying that you prefer to use .Net 4.0 (but if the mba is not 
> > compiled for .Net 4.0 that seems like a problem.)  Your 
> > wix.bootstraper statement does not have a supportedFramework so I am 
> > not sure how Burn is to negotiate the correct framework.
> >
> >
> > http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/redistributable
> > s_ and_install_checks/install_dotnet.html
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Patterson, Brent
> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:43 PM
> > To: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>
> > Subject: Re: [wix-users] .Net Framework install not working
> >
> > Sorry, yes you're correct.  It's my managed bootstrapper application 
> > that I was referring to, not the burn itself.  This is what I have 
> > in
> > configuration:
> >
> >     <startup useLegacyV2RuntimeActivationPolicy="true">
> >         <supportedRuntime version="v4.0" />
> >         <supportedRuntime version="v2.0.50727" />
> >     </startup>
> >     <wix.bootstrapper>
> >         <host assemblyName="CustomUI" />
> >         <host assemblyName="CustomUI.Res" />
> >     </wix.bootstrapper>
> >
> > Apparently 3 and 3.5 is "v2.0.50727" according to MSDN help.  The 
> > thing is, it DOES show the prompt that the user needs to install 
> > .NET framework to run the application, but after the user confirms, 
> > it closes and does nothing.  Is this a bug with Windows Installer or 
> > something, or with my application?  The target framework for the
> bootstrapper application is 3.5.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Phill Hogland
> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:33 PM
> > To: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [wix-users] .Net Framework install not working
> >
> > Burn does not require any .Net support.  If you have a managed 
> > bootstrapper application then the dependency on .Net is introduced 
> > and you control which version of .Net you need in your 
> > managedApp.BottstrapperCore.config file.  It sounds like your 
> > supportedRuntime does not match your expectations.
> >
> > This is from a mba which runs on 4.5 or later
> >   <startup>
> >     <supportedRuntime version="v4.0" sku=".NETFramework,Version=v4.5.1"
> />
> >     <supportedRuntime version="v4.0" sku=".NETFramework,Version=v4.5" />
> >   </startup>
> >   <wix.bootstrapper>
> >       <host assemblyName="MyMbaAssembly">
> >         <supportedFramework version="v4\Client" />
> >         <supportedFramework version="v4\Full" />
> >       </host>
> >   </wix.bootstrapper>
> >
> > Then the first item in the in the bundle chain should be the package 
> > ID for the .Net required by your managed bootstrapper application 
> > (in this case 4.5.1.
> >       <PackageGroupRef Id="NetFx451Web" />
> >
> > Any other .Net dependencies would be later in your chain.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Patterson, Brent
> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 2:01 PM
> > To: wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org
> > Subject: [wix-users] .Net Framework install not working
> >
> > I've ran into a problem with .NET framework.  My burn bundle 
> > requires
> > 3.5 to run, and installs 4.5.2 as part of pre-req mechanism for the 
> > software it's installing.  The 4.5.2 part works correctly.  But if 
> > the machine the user is installing on does not have 3.5 or higher 
> > installed, it prompts the user with Microsoft's "Download and 
> > Install .Net Framework" when launching the bundle.  If the user 
> > clicks cancel, it simply closes and not launch the burn bundle.  If 
> > the user clicks "Download & Install", it seem to do something for a 
> > short while, then closes.  But it doesn't install 3.5 .Net.  I don't 
> > see a progress bar or anything to indicate that it's running.  
> > Checking task manager does
> not reveal anything.
> >
> > To clarify, this is NOT a part of the burn bundle pre-req install, 
> > as the burn requires 3.5 to operate.  Is there some kind of setting 
> > or something for when building the burn bundle that affects this?  
> > Why is this not working?  We're targeting operating systems that 
> > should have
> > 3.5 already installed at minimum, but need to handle cases where 
> > some users may have all .net framework uninstalled.  I would assume 
> > that with the burn targeting 3.5, Windows should handle .Net 
> > installation required to run the bundle.  We're currently using WiX 3.9.
> >
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