[wix-users] Official 3.14 release date

Tue Jun 11 14:31:49 PDT 2019

Then you are stuck with the initial release of software, which may have known bugs, for which updates were released that fixed them.  I would venture to guess that this is in fact what you are seeing.

From: ivan.peev at gmail.com [mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:30 PM
To: Hoover, Jacob <Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>
Cc: Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com>; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>
Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date

Jacob,

The goal is not to have all the latest VS updates installed because our customer environments might not have this feature. We have to be able to support the earliest common denominator.

On Jun 11, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Hoover, Jacob <Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com<mailto:Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>> wrote:

Have you updated all visual studio installs with their latest updates?

Yours seems way out of date.

Visual Studio Locator version 2.5.2+gebb9f26a3d [query version 1.18.21.37008], and I don't have 2019 installed.

From: ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com> [mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:07 PM
To: Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>>
Cc: Hoover, Jacob <Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com<mailto:Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>>; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org<mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>>
Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date

Christopher,

If you have better theory, please let me know.

On Jun 11, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
That's the first I've heard that theory.  Have you asked Microsoft this?

https://github.com/microsoft/vswhere

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From: ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com> <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:06 PM
To: Hoover, Jacob
Cc: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List; Christopher Painter
Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date

Hi Jacob,

 No, it doesn’t. I suspect vswhere is no longer a legit tool to determine the installation state of Visual Studio because the installation is perfectly fine and recognized properly by installers built with WiX 3.11 .

> On Jun 11, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Hoover, Jacob <Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com<mailto:Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>> wrote:
>
> Does vswhere find it?
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:17 PM
> To: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>>; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org<mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>>
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> My feedback is that I don’t have any additional time to volunteer attempting to help you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Christopher,
>
> What should we do next? It is obvious the issue is with WiX.
>
> To get an environment where you can reproduce the issue yourself, configure a clean VM and then install the VS-based tool from here<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=871368>. You should now have the same environment you claim it is corrupt but it is not. Try to build an installer with the old WiX 3.11 and then you will see it works properly on it. Waiting for your feedback.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:35 AM <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> I can confirm the issue is with WiX 3.14 beta. If I use WiX 3.11 to build the Installer, VS 2017 is recognized properly. However if I use WiX 3.14 beta to get support for VS 2019, then the discovery for VS 2017 is broken. The bug is definitely in the WiX code.
>
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Rob Mensching <rob at firegiant.com<mailto:rob at firegiant.com><mailto:rob at firegiant.com>> wrote:
>
> Ivan,
>
> The mechanism for locating VS installations changed radically in VS2017 (and remained in VS2019). Finding those installations is dependent on the same code that is used by vswhere.exe to locate VS2017 and VS2019. If vswhere.exe cannot see your installations on a machine, then the WiX based CustomActions to find VS will not find them either.
>
> IIRC, there was a bug (that I did not follow closely) in the VS location code when both VS2017 and VS2019 were installed. So, it is definitely possible there is another bug.
>
> However, if vswhere.exe cannot find VS then that is definitely the place to start. The Visual Studio team owns vswhere.exe (and the VS dev that works vshwere.exe updated the WiX CustomAction to call the same API) so you'll want to follow up with Visual Studio first, to understand why VS2017 is hiding from vswhere.exe.
>
> Once vswhere.exe can see the VS installations, then there is a chance the CustomAction will be able to find it as well.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>  Rob Mensching
>  CEO
>  FireGiant
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> From: ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com> <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:01 AM
> To: Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>>
> Cc: Rob Mensching <rob at firegiant.com<mailto:rob at firegiant.com><mailto:rob at firegiant.com>>; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org<mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org><mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>>
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Christopher,
>
> You are wrong . The installation is not corrupt. I have already stated I have tested on clean machine and I have tested on multiple VS 2017 versions. WiX 3.11 handles VS 2017 installation properly. WiX 3.14 beta breaks the support.
>
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> You have a corrupt installation of Visual Studio.  It should display a lot of information.   Try running the VS Installer and see if it wan't any repair actions or anything.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:52 AM
> To: Christopher Painter
> Cc: Rob Mensching; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Christopher,
>
> This is the only printout:
>
> Visual Studio Locator version 2.1.3 [query version 1.12.134.36697] Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:49 AM Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> Please run C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\Installer\vswhere.exe  and post the results.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 8:46 PM
> To: Christopher Painter
> Cc: Rob Mensching; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Christopher,
>
> Find attached the log file.
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:25 PM Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> If you don't mind, please log the installation of:
>
> https://github.com/iswix-llc/iswix/releases/tag/v4.14.5
>
> Just get to the welcome dialog and cancel out.  You don't need to install all the way.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 5:12 PM
> To: Christopher Painter
> Cc: Rob Mensching; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Christopher,
>
> Please tell me what tables I should check. Isn't AppSearch command done by the WiX engine?
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 5:59 PM Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> I see the differences in the log including the MSI name was different.
>
> I don't know how these were built.  Have you compared the databases using ORCA and compared the relevant tables?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 9:23 PM
> To: Christopher Painter
> Cc: Rob Mensching; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Hi Christopher,
>
> I'm not talking about the WiX plugin for VS 2019. The issue is VS2017DEVENV property is not available during installation on system with VS 2017. If I run the installer on a system with VS 2019, VS2019DEVENV property is available.
>
> If I go back to WiX 3.11, VS2017DEVENV  property is again working properly when running on VS 2017 system.
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 10:10 PM Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> I have VS2019 15.9.4 installed on my build server with the 1.0.0.2 WiX VS 2017 extension and WiX 3.14.0.2927 installed.  Everything works just fine.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 4:32 PM
> To: Christopher Painter
> Cc: Rob Mensching; WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> It appears my conclusion was too quick. The support for VS 2019 is working fine. However, the support for VS 2017 is now broken. I have tested with the following VS 2017 versions - 15.9.9, 15.8.6, 15.5.2, 15.4.1
>
> I have done the test on a clean machine with no other VS version installed on it. After I went back to WiX 3.11, the installation is again working properly for VS 2017. Version 3.14.0.2927 is broken.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:16 AM Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>> wrote:
> Ah, I was looking at https://wixtoolset.org/releases/ since it had the 1.0.0.2 of 2019.
>
> I've installed all of them and 3.14 on my build box and 3.14 and updated IsWiX to use the 2019 detection feature in 3.14 and everything looks good to me.
>
> The only thing of note is how much smaller the 2010-2015 versions of the extension are and how quickly they installed.  I had an initial sense that they were missing something and the installation success was a false positive but everything seems to be there just fine.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Mensching <rob at firegiant.com<mailto:rob at firegiant.com><mailto:rob at firegiant.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:10 AM
> To: Christopher Painter; Ivan Peev
> Cc: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
>
> Yes. VS2017 (and all the others) exist here: https://github.com/wixtoolset/VisualStudioExtension/releases/tag/v1.0.0.2
>
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________
>
> Short replies here. Complete answers over there: http://www.firegiant.com/
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>
>
> From: Christopher Painter <chrpai at iswix.com<mailto:chrpai at iswix.com><mailto:chrpai at iswix.com>>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 7:35 PM
> To: Rob Mensching <rob at firegiant.com<mailto:rob at firegiant.com><mailto:rob at firegiant.com>>; Ivan Peev <ivan.peev at gmail.com<mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com><mailto:ivan.peev at gmail.com>>
> Cc: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org<mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org><mailto:wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>>
> Subject: Re: [wix-users] Official 3.14 release date
>
>
>
> Rob:
>
>
>
> RE the VS2019 extension and the item template issue...   does that need a new build of the VS2017 extension also?
>
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