[wix-users] Previous package not found (and therefore not uninstalled) during major upgrade
Edwin Castro
egcastr at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 17:23:24 PST 2018
That's a bundle log rather than an MSI log. That detection is for the
bundle rather than for the MSI. What does the bundle log say for the MSI
package? What does the MSI log say?
--
Edwin G. Castro
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Steve Sanders <steve at keyba.se> wrote:
> Positive it's a MajorUpgrade. Again, this problem happens only
> intermittently with the same 2 bundles. In both success and failure cases,
> the burn log contains:
> [2200:27D8][2018-02-16T19:30:30]i102: Detected related bundle: {
> 48d54dff-2ea8-461a-a1f3-bea0d2c2c26f}, type: Upgrade, scope: PerUser,
> version: 1.0.39.39, operation: MajorUpgrade
>
> The app package has Product Id="*" , so it is always a major upgrade,
> AFAIK.
>
> Logs are already verbose AFAIK, they're linked to above.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:28 PM, Edwin Castro <egcastr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure you have a MajorUpgrade? Is it at all possible that the
>> Windows Installer thinks you're modifying or repairing a currently
>> installed product? What does the verbose log say? What happens when the
>> ProductVersion changes but the ProductCode does not?
>>
>> --
>> Edwin G. Castro
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Steve Sanders via wix-users <
>> wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't remember, maybe it was a FilesInUse chicken/egg problem, as in
>>> https://buildmaestro.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/suppress-files
>>> inuse-dialog-on-uninstall/
>>> ? I could theoretically shut down our processes before that, but would
>>> then
>>> need a rollback option to restart them on failure/cancel/full disk, etc.
>>> One of our requirements is to support silent update.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Hoover, Jacob <
>>> Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > If Language is null or an empty string (""), FindRelatedProducts
>>> ignores
>>> > *msidbUpgradeAttributesLanguagesExclusive* and detects all languages.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The one thing I do think is strange, why do you suppress
>>> InstallValidate?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > <InstallValidate Suppress="yes">FAKE_PROPERTY</InstallValidate>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *From:* Steve Sanders [mailto:steve at keyba.se]
>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:07 PM
>>> > *To:* Hoover, Jacob <Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com>
>>> > *Cc:* WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>
>>> >
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [wix-users] Previous package not found (and therefore
>>> not
>>>
>>> > uninstalled) during major upgrade
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > According to Orca, the upgrade tables look like this, same as one built
>>> > with Wix 3.9 except for the version of course. Is it a problem that
>>> > Language is empty?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language Attributes
>>> > Remove ActionProperty
>>> >
>>> > s38 S20 S20 S255 i4 S255 s72
>>> >
>>> > Upgrade UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language
>>> > Attributes
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B}
>>> > 1.0.39.39 513 WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B} 1.0.39.39
>>> > 2 WIX_DOWNGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language Attributes
>>> > Remove ActionProperty
>>> >
>>> > s38 S20 S20 S255 i4 S255 s72
>>> >
>>> > Upgrade UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language
>>> > Attributes
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B}
>>> > 1.0.40.19 513 WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B} 1.0.40.19
>>> > 2 WIX_DOWNGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > and one from 6 months ago:
>>> >
>>> > UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language Attributes
>>> > Remove ActionProperty
>>> >
>>> > s38 S20 S20 S255 i4 S255 s72
>>> >
>>> > Upgrade UpgradeCode VersionMin VersionMax Language
>>> > Attributes
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B}
>>> > 1.0.26.918 513 WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> > {C118F7EC-9A1D-4FF1-91F5-15D208499D7B} 1.0.26.918
>>> > 2 WIX_DOWNGRADE_DETECTED
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Steve Sanders <steve at keyba.se> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I tried to figure out what the Upgrade table is and how to find it, but
>>> > nearest I can tell, Wix is supposed to handle/populate it from the
>>> > MajorUpgrade element:
>>> > <MajorUpgrade DowngradeErrorMessage="A newer version of Keybase is
>>> already
>>> > installed." AllowSameVersionUpgrades="yes" />
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > This hasn't changed for more than a year - I suppose it is possible
>>> that
>>> > wix 3.11 changed the way it populates this upgrade table? I will try
>>> > dumping it from some MSIs using Orca and see.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Hoover, Jacob <
>>> > Jacob.Hoover at greenheck.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Well, if FindRelatedProduct is truly failing then it's a windows
>>> installer
>>> > issue. However I seriously don't think this is the issue. Per
>>> > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/
>>> > aa368600%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 I would compare
>>> > the Upgrade table from an old "never broken" install and a newer
>>> "sometimes
>>> > broken" installer.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: wix-users [mailto:wix-users-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> > Of Steve Sanders via wix-users
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:38 PM
>>> > To: WiX Toolset Users Mailing List <wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org>
>>> > Cc: Steve Sanders <steve at keyba.se>
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [wix-users] Previous package not found (and therefore not
>>> > uninstalled) during major upgrade
>>> >
>>> > I am positive because of the associated updater log, among other
>>> reasons,
>>> > which shows version 1.0.39-20180121191330+5e57981 (that's the semantic
>>> > version, the windows version being 1.0.39.39) applied 2018/01/23
>>> 11:57:11,
>>> > then the updater considers that version current when it checks for the
>>> next
>>> > update:
>>> > 2018/02/16 19:30:03 INFO Checking for update, current version is
>>> > 1.0.39-20180121191330+5e57981
>>> > (updater gets this version by running the installed program with the
>>> > "version" argument.)
>>> >
>>> > Again, our custom actions are supposed to close our processes in the
>>> > upgrade case, but if upgrade case is not detected, they can't close the
>>> > processes.
>>> >
>>> > I guess we could hack around this with some registry entries, but
>>> detecting
>>> > + applying upgrades is one of the main reasons to use a tool like Wix I
>>> > thought. Again, this happens only intermittently, and didn't seem to
>>> > happen ever with Wix 3.9.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again, everyone, for taking a look.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:23 AM, Nir Bar via wix-users <
>>> > wix-users at lists.wixtoolset.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The failing log says the the RESTART MANAGER is disabled so
>>> FilesInUse
>>> > > is used. FilesInUse can only detect applications with a window.
>>> > >
>>> > > However, this has nothing to do with upgrade detection. I've never
>>> > > encountered a false-false upgrade detection.
>>> > > Are you absolutely sure that another version is already installed?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Nir Bar, Independent WiX Expert. Creator of-
>>> > > JetBA: WiX WPF Bootstrapper User Interface Framework
>>> > >
>>> > > JetBA++: WiX Native Bootstrapper User Interface Framework
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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