[wix-users] Patch Building Question

Orzyszek Andreas Andreas.Orzyszek at dentsplysirona.com
Thu Jun 30 22:40:10 PDT 2016


Thanks for the feedback Phil.

But I don't understand how file hashing can help with this.
As far as I understand it, this means candle or light have to create a file hash of the source file if there is no version info present.
I didn't look at the sourcecode for these tools. A look inside the wixpdb files created for version 1.0 and version 1.1 can help me here I think. Is there an option to output these pdbs in a more human readable format?

I'll try to setup a dev vm for wix but this takes time I don't have at the moment.

Searching the issue tracker this problem, I found it was reported back in 2012 and is still open.
Does this mean it is hard to fix or just that no one has time to do it?

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File timestamps are not used that way in Windows Installer, so creating a difference based on static timestamps in files would be pointless.  

When a data file is installed the Windows Installer changes the creation date to be the same as its modified date. If the file is modified then its modified date will be a later time. An incoming file will not replace that file if the modified date is later, and the timestamps of the incoming data file have no relevance. 

File hashing is used for data files, and maybe that's an option in your case, but the right thing to do is version your binaries. It just works. 

Phil W 

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Yes the file is unversioned.
But then the timestamps of the file should be used. This would be the same way the windows installer decides when to replace a file if no versioninfo is present.

I am sure I can create a workaround for solving this in my case but I still believe this is a bug.

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Are the files you are patching unversioned?  If so, the wixpdb is not likely to contain any information that would generate a difference.  If you are patching unversioned files, you may need to use a technique that compares files directly.

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I just tested it again but this time using a textfile instead of my .dat file.
Just to be sure that it is not the file that causes this error.

But the result stays exactly the same.

Think this could be a bug with the torch tool.

I don't know how to start debugging this but if I should test something else I will do this asap.


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It is not the version part.
I just tried it with 4.5.0 and 4.5.1 but getting the same error.

I have to change the source path of the file between version 1 and version 2. Then it works but this doesn't seem right to me.
It should be possible to only update the file without changing the source path.

Maybe some other ideas?

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You cannot use the 4th value in the Version quartet.  Bump the version from
4.5.0.1 to 4.5.1 and see what you get.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 at 09:48 Orzyszek Andreas < Andreas.Orzyszek at dentsplysirona.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am getting strange results when trying to build a patch.
>
> The example on the website is not precise about the version and 
> product ids.
> I used this source to build the patch:
>
> Product.wxs Version 1.0:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <Wix 
> xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi">
>     <Product Id="{0E3DB235-1AB4-445C-9DF7-9E21B953CDBB}"
>         Name="WiX Patch Example Product"
>         Language="1033"
>         Version="4.5.0.1"
>         Manufacturer="Dynamo Corporation"
>         UpgradeCode="{8A42A449-994E-407E-91D6-450BBFF57134}">
>         <Package Description="Installs a file that will be patched."
>             Comments="This Product does not install any executables"
>             InstallerVersion="500"
>             Compressed="yes" />
>
>         <MajorUpgrade AllowSameVersionUpgrades="yes" AllowDowngrades="no"
> Schedule="afterInstallValidate" DowngradeErrorMessage="A newer version 
> of [ProductName] is already installed."/>
>
>         <MediaTemplate CabinetTemplate="cer{0}.cab"
> CompressionLevel="medium" EmbedCab="yes"
> MaximumUncompressedMediaSize="1000"/>
>
>       <FeatureRef Id="SampleProductFeature"/>
>     </Product>
>     <Fragment>
>         <Feature Id="SampleProductFeature" Title="Sample Product Feature"
> Level="1">
>             <ComponentRef Id="Blocks.dat" />
>         </Feature>
>     </Fragment>
>     <Fragment>
>         <DirectoryRef Id="SampleProductFolder">
>             <Component Id="Blocks.dat">
>                 <File Id="Blocks.dat" Name="Blocks.dat"
>
Source="D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Sources\PatchPackages\CEREC\Blocks.da
t"
> />
>             </Component>
>         </DirectoryRef>
>     </Fragment>
>     <Fragment>
>         <Directory Id="TARGETDIR" Name="SourceDir">
>             <Directory Id="ProgramFilesFolder" Name="PFiles">
>                 <Directory Id="SampleProductFolder" Name="Patch Sample 
> Directory">
>                 </Directory>
>             </Directory>
>         </Directory>
>     </Fragment>
> </Wix>
>
>
> Product.wxs Version 1.1:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <Wix 
> xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi">
>     <Product Id="{B53C2397-0841-4208-9EC9-0C47EB4A0B6D}"
>         Name="WiX Patch Example Product"
>         Language="1033"
>         Version="4.5.0.2"
>         Manufacturer="Dynamo Corporation"
>         UpgradeCode="{8A42A449-994E-407E-91D6-450BBFF57134}">
>         <Package Description="Installs a file that will be patched."
>             Comments="This Product does not install any executables"
>             InstallerVersion="500"
>             Compressed="yes" />
>
>         <MajorUpgrade AllowSameVersionUpgrades="yes" AllowDowngrades="no"
> Schedule="afterInstallValidate" DowngradeErrorMessage="A newer version 
> of [ProductName] is already installed."/>
>
>         <MediaTemplate CabinetTemplate="cer{0}.cab"
> CompressionLevel="medium" EmbedCab="yes"
> MaximumUncompressedMediaSize="1000"/>
>
>       <FeatureRef Id="SampleProductFeature"/>
>     </Product>
>     <Fragment>
>         <Feature Id="SampleProductFeature" Title="Sample Product Feature"
> Level="1">
>             <ComponentRef Id="Blocks.dat" />
>         </Feature>
>     </Fragment>
>     <Fragment>
>         <DirectoryRef Id="SampleProductFolder">
>             <Component Id="Blocks.dat">
>                 <File Id="Blocks.dat" Name="Blocks.dat"
>
Source="D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Sources\PatchPackages\CEREC\Blocks.da
t"
> />
>             </Component>
>         </DirectoryRef>
>     </Fragment>
>     <Fragment>
>         <Directory Id="TARGETDIR" Name="SourceDir">
>             <Directory Id="ProgramFilesFolder" Name="PFiles">
>                 <Directory Id="SampleProductFolder" Name="Patch Sample 
> Directory">
>                 </Directory>
>             </Directory>
>         </Directory>
>     </Fragment>
> </Wix>
>
> As you can see I changed the productcode and the productversion.
> I also changed the only file between building Version 1.0 and Version 1.1.
> I'm not sure if the toolset was able to detect the change in the 
> sourcefile. But the creation time of the file for version 1.1 is newer 
> then the one for version 1.0.
> Maybe this is the cause of the problem.
>
> Patch.wxs:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <Wix 
> xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi">
>     <Patch
>         AllowRemoval="yes"
>         Manufacturer="Sirona Dental Systems GmbH"
>         DisplayName="Materialpack"
>         Description="Materialpack"
>         Classification="Service Pack" >
>         <Media Id="5000" Cabinet="rtm.cab">
>             <PatchBaseline Id="RTM"/>
>         </Media>
>         <PatchFamilyRef Id="RTMPatchFamily"/>
>     </Patch>
>     <Fragment>
>         <PatchFamily Id="RTMPatchFamily" Version="1.0.0.0">
>             <ComponentRef Id="Blocks.dat"/>
>         </PatchFamily>
>     </Fragment>
> </Wix>
>
> I then try to build the patch
>
> 1.       D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Tools\WIX\310\torch.exe -p -xi
> 1.0\product10.wixpdb 1.1\product11.wixpdb -out diff.wixmst
>
> 2.       D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Tools\WIX\310\candle.exe patch.wxs
>
> 3.       D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Tools\WIX\310\light.exe
> patch.wixobj -out patch.wixmsp
>
> 4.       D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Tools\WIX\310\pyro.exe
> patch.wixmsp -out patch.msp -t RTM diff.wixmst
>
> But pyro creates this error:
> D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Sources\PatchPackages\CEREC\Patch.wxs(10) :
> warning PYRO1079 : The cabinet 'rtm.cab' does not contain any files.
> If this patch contains no files, this warning can likely be safely
ignored.
> Otherwise, try passing -p to torch.exe when first building the 
> transforms, or add a ComponentRef to your PatchFamily authoring to 
> pull changed files into the cabinet.
> D:\PlasticWorkspaces\Installer\Sources\PatchPackages\CEREC\diff.wixmst :
> error PYRO0227 : The transform being built did not contain any 
> differences so it could not be created.
>
> If I put the file inside the version 1.0 and version 1.1 folders it 
> seems to work.
>
> Maybe someone has seen this before or can explain to me why this can't 
> work.
>
> Is it possible to create a patch without changing the product id 
> and/or productversion?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
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