[wix-devs] 4822 - Delay ARP registration in Bundles until a non-permanent package is installed

[Rob Mensching]

Would it help if there was an additional command-line argument registered with RunOnce when all packages planned were permanent?

Then post-restart the run-once'd elevated Bundle would know if the cached bundle and ARP should be removed if no execution happens (and possible modify planning so execution removes ARP entry on failure).

Bob's "registry cleaners" comment comes down to the fact that we really don't want to have a design that says, "Registry cleaners are useful for cleaning up the cache because we made a design decision that leaves behind detritus on your computer".

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Subject: Re: [wix-devs] 4822 - Delay ARP registration in Bundles until a non-permanent package is installed

If it weren't for the reboot, then yes Burn could automatically uncache at the end of Apply.

In the reboot scenario, no. Burn would have to rely on the BA to uncache if the user cancels. "Registry cleaners" are already incorrectly blowing away Burn packages in the cache so I don't think that makes a difference here.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:00 AM Bob Arnson <bob at firegiant.com> wrote:

> Could the bundle not trigger an uncache? If not, it's a nonstarter:
> Leaving cache behind is how "registry cleaners" start to legitimately 
> target Burn and make everyone's life miserable.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sean Hall via wix-devs
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> a non-permanent package is installed
>
> No, it doesn't need to be registered in ARP for anything but allowing 
> the user to remove the bundle from the cache. The bundle can be run 
> from the RunOnce key after the reboot without having an ARP entry. But 
> it does need to stay in the cache. For security, the RunOnce key must 
> point to the cached bundle. There's no way to do automatic uncache in this scenario.
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:39 AM Bob Arnson <bob at firegiant.com> wrote:
>
> > It needs to register and be cached to restart on reboot, right? If 
> > all packages are permanent and not cached, then automatic 
> > unregiration/uncache seems reasonable.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-devs <wix-devs-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org> On Behalf Of 
> > Sean Hall via wix-devs
> > Sent: Sunday, 28 June, 2020 07:17
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> > <wix-devs at lists.wixtoolset.org>
> > Cc: Sean Hall <r.sean.hall at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [wix-devs] 4822 - Delay ARP registration in Bundles until a 
> > non-permanent package is installed
> >
> > I'm interested in implementing
> > https://github.com/wixtoolset/issues/issues/4822. This is the hard 
> > scenario that needs to be solved:
> >
> > 1. User starts the per-machine bundle on a clean machine.
> > 2. The bundle has an MBA and needs to install the .NET Framework.
> > 3. The bundle caches itself into the package cache.
> > 4. The bundle registers in ARP.
> > 5. The bundle creates a RunOnce key.
> > 6. The bundle installs the permanent .NET package, which requires a
> reboot.
> > 7. The bundle updates the RunOnce key to resume after the reboot.
> > 8. The user allows the prereq BA to reboot the machine.
> > 9. RunOnce starts the bundle elevated.
> >
> > Because RunOnce always starts the target program elevated, we need 
> > to cache the bundle into the package cache (or other protected area) 
> > to be secure.
> > In order to allow the user to clean up their machine, we are 
> > registering in ARP to give them a way to clean the cache.
> >
> > If we want to implement this feature, I think we're going to have to 
> > allow the possibility of the bundle being cached without an ARP entry.
> > Either Burn removes the ARP registration somewhere between 6 and 8, 
> > or it never registers in the first place (because all planned 
> > packages are
> permanent).
> > Is this acceptable or is this feature not possible?
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