[wix-devs] Simplifying WiX xmlns values

[Rob Mensching]

After applying this change across the codebase, it started to look wrong. So, I've abandoned this idea and kept the existing URI based xmlns.

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Subject: Re: [wix-devs] Simplifying WiX xmlns values

I kinda' like what you're doing there at the end but I think there is still a bit more value in the tie between the extension name and the namespace value.

So, I still lean towards:

wix4:WixToolset
wix4:WixToolset.Util.wixext
wix4:FireGiant.Msix.wixext

Especially since those names will show up in NuGet and on the command-line like and in the project:

wix extension add WixToolset.Util.wixext wix build -ext WixToolset.Util.wixext a.wxs

Or:

<Project>
   <ItemGroup>
      <PackageReference Include="WixToolset.Util.wixext" />


If this generally sounds right, I'll put together a quick WIP for this tomorrow.


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From: wix-devs <wix-devs-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org> On Behalf Of Sean Hall via wix-devs
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Cc: Sean Hall <r.sean.hall at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wix-devs] Simplifying WiX xmlns values

I think basing it off the Nuget package name makes sense. I'm tempted to make the default/Core namespace just 'wix4:'.

But if we're going for easier to remember, I would prefer

<Wix xmlns="wix:4" xmlns:util="wix:4:util">

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:03 PM Rob Mensching <rob at firegiant.com> wrote:

> I forgot that scheme was required on a URI. Honestly, it can serve as 
> the root of the versioned namespace. "wix4" is great.
>
> So, something like:
>
> wix4:WixToolset         - for the "core" namespace.
> wix4:WixToolset.Util.wixext     - for the "util" extension.
> wix4:WixToolset.Iis.wixext      - for the "iis" extension.
> wix4:FireGiiant.Msix.wixext     - for the "MSIX" extension from FireGiant.
>
> I could entertain removing the .wixext from the extensions above, 
> which is shorter and cleaner (but probably not worth the mental load 
> to remember it isn't used):
>
> wix4:WixToolset.Util
> wix4:WixToolset.Iis
> wix4:FireGiiant.Msix
>
> So, something like:
>
> <Wix xmlns="wix4:WixToolset" xmlns:util="wix4:WixToolset.Util.wixext">
>
> Way easier to remember *and* _versioned_ which is necessary.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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> Sean Hall via wix-devs
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> Cc: Sean Hall <r.sean.hall at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wix-devs] Simplifying WiX xmlns values
>
> Actually I think wix:4:core is valid, only the first part must start 
> with a letter.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:24 AM Sean Hall <r.sean.hall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the namespace is required to be a URI. So while it would be 
> > nice to do those I don't think we can. We could do wix4:core or 
> > wix4://Core or WixToolset:Ext:Util or WixToolset:Util.wixext. But we 
> > couldn't do wix:4:core since each element must begin with a letter.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Rob Mensching via wix-devs < 
> > wix-devs at lists.wixtoolset.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I can *never* remember the xmlns URIs for the various extensions.
> >> They are better in v4 but after writing the extension cache WIP, I 
> >> wondered
> >>
> >>                 What if we used the extension name as the xmlns 
> >> value instead of a URI?
> >>
> >> The result would be:
> >>
> >> <Wix xmlns="..." xmlns:util="WixToolset.Util.wixext">
> >>
> >> And on the command-line you'd have:
> >>
> >> wix.exe build -ext WixToolset.Util.wixext
> >>
> >> *And* then instead of having to remember the default WiX Toolset 
> >> namespace (can you type it in without looking?) we could use just 
> >> "WixToolset", so:
> >>
> >> <Wix xmlns="WixToolset" xmlns:util="WixToolset.Util.wixext">
> >>
> >> I'm open to other suggestions for the base xmlns, but "WixToolset" 
> >> is a pretty good start.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >>   Rob Mensching
> >>   CEO
> >>   FireGiant
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> >>