[wix-devs] GitHub Issue #5556

Rob Mensching rob at firegiant.com
Mon May 15 16:25:18 PDT 2017 

Brian,

As commented on the PR, I like the changes, I just think the word "Release Chain" isn't quite right. Maybe just "Releases" is better but would be interested in people's opinions here.


Regards,

  Rob Mensching
  CEO
  FireGiant
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From: wix-devs [mailto:wix-devs-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On Behalf Of Brian Drennan
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:31 PM
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Hi all,

Thank you for the answers Rob. I apologize for the delay, but thought I would finish the work before replying.

I couldn't find a button to assign myself the issue we're tracking this with (https://github.com/wixtoolset/issues/issues/5556).

I don't know enough about the WiX docs to do anything with #1 at this time, but I'll see if I can jump on the WiX Online Meeting the week of the 22nd. If there's time in that call, maybe we can have a brief chat about it.

Thank you for the information about the build. I didn't end up using it, due to the information in #2-3.

The pull request for the change is open. It's at https://github.com/wixtoolset/web/pull/28. I included an image of the split in the PR as well.

I hope everyone agrees with the change.

Thanks!

From: Rob Mensching<mailto:rob at firegiant.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 10:38 AM
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Good to see you're back. Answers:

1. Thought I responded to Blair's v4 point but don't see it here. Ultimately, we need to address the SEO issues that v4 documentation adds. We had this problem with v2 vs. v3 a long time ago and it created a mess for search engines. I don't have an answer.

2. I think the split should be in weekly releases page. One day we will want to promote v4 to the releases page but that time isn't now. Just splitting v3 and v4 on the weekly releases page is good.

3. tinySite is still used for all the static content. The "wrapper" is a ASP.NET Core project so you'll need VS2017/MSBuild15 to build it all.

4. That said, you can just render the "src\Web\Static" folder for all the static content. You will just not be able to navigate to dynamic pages (like the error page or redirects). Should be fine for the task you're doing.

-----Original Message-----
From: wix-devs [mailto:wix-devs-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On Behalf Of Brian Drennan
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 8:44 PM
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Hi all,

I don't recall ever seeing a response to Blair's inquiry below. I can see about getting the links up for v4 documentation. Is this worth doing?

Also, where should I put this separation of panels at? In the main http://wixtoolset.org/releases page (with the rest of the releases), or in the weekly releases (http://wixtoolset.org/releases/weekly)? I believe v4 is still getting built weekly, and escrowed in the page that way?

The last time I looked at this, we just used tinysite and static rendering, but it now looks like there is some OWIN self-hosting going on. Is that right? I'm getting some build errors running MSBuild on the Web.sln file, but running (from the repo root):

Tools\tinysite\tinysite render src\web\static Tools\tinysite\tinysite serve src\web\static

Seems to get the site going, and looks consistent with the version on the official WiX Toolset website. Is running tinysite on the Static folder the right thing to do?

Thanks!

- Brian

From: Blair Murri<mailto:osito at live.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:54 AM
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Question: should we start showing the v4 help/documentation on the web page also? We have a placeholder for the link (that's said "coming soon" for years now).



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From: Rob Mensching<mailto:rob at firegiant.com>
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1. If you want the issue to track the work, we can re-open it.

2. I don't think we need anything formal for this. It should be a pretty small cosmetic change to display two lists on the weekly release page to show the latest v3.x releases and latest v4.x releases independently. Probably side by side is fine (there is a lot of horizontal whitespace available on that page).

3. No, should be a pretty straight forward change to a single page. Once you get the filtering v3/v4 filtering, tweaking the HTML layout should be pretty simple work.


-----Original Message-----
From: wix-devs [mailto:wix-devs-bounces at lists.wixtoolset.org] On Behalf Of Brian Drennan
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 3:24 PM
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Subject: [wix-devs] GitHub Issue #5556

Hi All,

Based on the discussion that occurred on https://github.com/wixtoolset/issues/issues/5556, it sounds like perhaps the group is open to further segregation of WiX4 v. WiX3 packages on the releases page. So, I have a few questions:


  1.  Should this issue be re-opened (and assigned to me)? It is currently closed.
  2.  What artifacts would you like before I start hacking on the .webproj? I didn't produce any last time, and am unsure of if you would like anything other than the GitHub comments to serve as documentation on the direction
     *   I understand that normally, a WIP would be used, but I think that applies more generally to the toolset itself, correct?
  3.  Any other special considerations I missed?

As noted in the issue comments, I expect to have some free time around the end of this month to beginning of next that I could use to make some updates.

Thanks!

- Brian
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